Ref |
NBR 1908 Dia |
NBR 1921 Dia |
LNER Dia |
Type / description |
NBR numbers |
Length over buffers |
Body length |
Body width |
Roof height |
Wheelbase |
Wheel dia |
Bogie ctrs |
C0080 |
8 |
8 |
8B |
Six wheel Third 1881 Saloon Third. HMRS ref gives diagram 8 as 3rd class saloon. GWMS drawing notates it as first class. This coach used Drummond’s flexible chassis design. See also diagram ref C0120 |
1241-1244 |
38'-5½" |
35'-6½" |
7'-6" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C0130 |
13 |
13 |
13B |
Six wheel Third 1887 Saloon Third Class. HMRS Journal quotes 2 saloons, GWMS shows only 1. |
972, 973, 1673 |
38'-5½" |
35'-6½" |
8'-0" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C0190 |
18 |
19 |
17B |
Six wheel Third 1888-1901 6 Compartment Third Class. Holmes continued to build 6 wheeled carriages based on Drummond’s specifications into the early 1900s. This vehicle represents the standard 6 compartment third which was built in large numbers by Cowlairs. All vehicles had Westinghouse brake and gas lighting. |
1041, 1044-1050, 1149-1154, 1156-1160, 1162-1164, 1166, 1168, 1169, 1172-1173 etc |
38'-5½" |
35'-6½" |
8'-0" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C0200 |
19 |
20 |
18B |
Six wheel Third 1880-99 6 Compartment Third Class. One running number identified |
860 |
38'-5½" |
35'-6½" |
7'-6" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C0410 |
42 |
41 |
32B |
Six wheel Third 1882-99 Saloon Third Class. Built by Holmes, these carriages are examples of the many variety of saloons built by the NBR. They would not normally be used in service trains, bur would be made available for hire to clubs and societies for outings. |
1368-1373 |
38'-5½" |
35'-6½" |
8'-0" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C0420 |
43 |
42 |
33B
| Six wheel Third 1898-99 Third Class Corridor. These carriages were built at Cowlairs, 8 in 1898 and 4 in 1899 and minutes of the Locomotive & Stores Committee on 10/2/1898 indicate their intended use was to provide for the conveyance of theatrical parties (see NBRSG & GWMS references). They may also have been used on the West Highland Railway (see J Watson HMRS ref.) |
1434-1445 |
40'-2" |
37'-3" |
8'-2" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C0510 |
53 |
51 |
42B
| Six wheel Third 1875-1890 Third Brake |
935, 941, 944, 945, 1053, 1055, 1060, 1132-1135, 1145 |
38'-5½" |
35'-6½" |
7'-6" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C0620 |
64 |
62 |
52B
| Six wheel Third 1880-90 6 Compartment Third Class. Transferred to NBR in 1905 |
221, 286, 310, 393, 448 |
37'-6" |
33'-11½" |
7'-9" |
11'-7½" |
24'-2" |
3'-5" |
– |
C0630 |
65 |
63 |
53B
| Six wheel Third 1880-90 Third Class 5 Compartment & Luggage. Transferred to NBR in 1905. |
458 |
38'-4½" |
35'-0" |
7'-9" |
11'-7½" |
24'-1" |
3'-5" |
– |
C0640 |
66 |
64 |
54B
| Six wheel Third 1880-90 4 Compartment Third Brake. Transferred to NBR in 1905. |
1 |
37'-3" |
33'-10½" |
7'-6" |
11'-7½" |
23'-6" |
3'-5" |
– |
C0650 |
68 |
65 |
55B
| Six wheel Third 1880-90 Saloon Third. Transferred to NBR in 1905. |
673, 674 |
40'-3" |
37'-0" |
8'-0" |
11'-7½" |
25'-2" |
3'-6" |
– |
C0810 |
85 |
81 |
– |
Six wheel Third c1882 Third Lavatory. 3 vehicles transferred to NBR c1898. Running numbers believed
to be correct. |
1592-1594 |
34'-3" |
31'-0" |
8'-1" |
11'-7" |
21'-0" |
3'-6" |
– |
C0940 |
– |
94 |
72B
| Six wheel Third Saloon Third. This coach was one of two transferred to NBR in 1905 as diagram
67 (see ref.B0670). It was rebuilt c1918, becoming diagram 94. |
No running number identified. |
37'-¾" |
33'-8" |
7'-9" |
11'-7½" |
24'-0" |
3'-5" |
– |
C1030 |
126 |
103 |
79B
| Six wheel Third 1866 Saloon Third. |
1866 |
39'-9½" |
36'-5" |
8'-0" |
11'-7½" |
24'-6" |
3'-6" |
– |
C1050 |
129 |
105 |
81B
| Six wheel Third Saloon Third. |
1864, 1866 |
40'-10½" |
37'-6" |
8'-6" |
11'-7½" |
24'-8" |
3'-6" |
– |
C1120 |
112 |
112 |
85B
| Six wheel Third Saloon Third. |
1240 |
39'-6" |
36'-1" |
8'-0" |
11'-4½" |
24'-2" |
3'-6" |
– |
C1140 |
– |
114 |
90B
| Six wheel Third 1909 Saloon Third. Conversion from Compo Lavatory coach (1920 diagram 52) |
9, 142, 150, 206, 223, 225, 228, 230, 263, 270, 280-282 |
38'-5½" |
35'-6½" |
8'-0" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C1270 |
– |
127 |
103B
| Six wheel Third Saloon Third. Originally 3 vehicles transferred to NBR in 1906 which became 1920 diagram 61 (see ref C0610). One appears to have been converted to Third Saloon as per 1920 diagram 127. |
No running number identified |
39'-4½" |
36'-0" |
7'-9" |
11'-8" |
24'-2" |
3'-6" |
– |
C1280 |
– |
128 |
104B
| Six wheel Third Saloon Third. Conversion of a First Lavatory coach (1920 diagram 50). |
No running number identified |
38'-5½" |
35'-6½" |
8'-0" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C1290 |
– |
129 |
105B
| Six wheel Third 1909 Saloon Third. Conversion from Compo Lavatory coach (1920 diagram 52). |
No running number identified. |
? |
35'-6½" |
8'-0" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C1300 |
– |
130 |
106B
| Six wheel Third 1909 Saloon Third. Conversion from Compo Lavatory coach (1920 diagram 52). |
No running number identified |
38'-5½" |
35'-6½" |
8'-0" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C1310 |
– |
131 |
107B
| Six wheel Third Saloon Third. Converted from diagram 84 (see ref C0840) |
No running number identified |
37'-5" |
34'-0" |
7'-9" |
11'-7" |
24'-4" |
3'-5" |
– |
C1320 |
– |
132 |
108B
| Six wheel Third 1909 Saloon Third. Conversion from Compo Lavatory coach (1920 diagram 52). |
No running number identified |
38'-5½" |
35'-6½" |
8'-0" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C1330 |
– |
133 |
135B
| Six wheel Third 1917 Third Brake. Converted by Reid from earlier Drummond coaches (1920
diagram 14) to provide additional brake vans for commuter trains. |
No running number identified |
32'-11" |
30'-0" |
7'-6" |
11'-8" |
18'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C1370 |
– |
137 |
112B
| Six wheel Third c1917 Saloon Third. Assumed to be a conversion by Reid from earlier Holmes coaches (1908 diagram 51). |
272 |
32'-11" |
30'-0" |
8'-0" |
11'-8" |
18'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C1380 |
– |
138 |
113B
| Six wheel Third 1888 Saloon Third. Originally 3 vehicles transferred to NBR in 1906 which became 1920 diagram 61 (see ref C061). At least one appears to have been converted c1917 to Third Saloon as per 1920 diagram 138 |
No running number identified |
39'-4½" |
36'-0" |
7'-9" |
11'-7½" |
24'-2" |
3'-6" |
– |
C1400 |
– |
140 |
115B
| Six wheel Third 1890 6W 3rd Class 4 Compt Luggage Lav ex-ECJS. Believed NBR received 5 out of total of 17 originally built in Doncaster. Transferred to NBR 1905. This vehicle believed reconstructed by NBR and given 1920 diagram no 140. (See also ref: C0590). |
No running number identified |
39'-4½" |
36'-0" |
7'-9" |
11'-7½" |
24'-2" |
3'-6" |
– |
C1410 |
– |
141 |
– |
Six wheel Third 1883-84 Saloon Third. One of two vehicles transferred to NBR in 1906. Vehicle rebuilt
c1917 to 1920 diagram 141 from 1920 diagram 60 (see ref C0600) |
No running number identified |
38'-10½" |
35'-6" |
7'-9" |
11'-7½" |
24'-6" |
3'-6" |
– |
C1420 |
– |
142 |
– |
Six wheel Third c1917 Third Brake. Assumed to be a conversion by Reid from earlier Drummond coaches (1920 diagram 14). |
No running number identified |
32'-11" |
30'-0" |
7'-6" |
11'-8" |
18'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C1460 |
– |
146 |
116B
| Six wheel Third Saloon Third. Conversion from First Lavatory coach (1920 diagram 50) |
No running number identified |
38'-5½" |
35'-6½" |
8'-0" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C1480 |
– |
148 |
– |
Six wheel Third Saloon Third. |
No running number identified |
35'-8½" |
32'-5½" |
7'-9" |
11'-7" |
22'-9½" |
3'-6" |
– |
C1580 |
– |
158 |
125B
| Six wheel Third 1909 Saloon Third. Conversion from Compo Lavatory coach (1920 diagram 53 -see
ref. C0530) |
No running number identified |
38'-4½" |
35'-6½" |
8'-0" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |
C1670
| – |
167 |
– |
Six wheel Third 5 Compartment Third. Converted from 5 compartment First (1920 diagram 18 -see
ref.C0180) |
No running number identified |
38'-5½" |
35'-6½" |
7'-6" |
11'-8" |
23'-0" |
4'-0" |
– |